To purchase an Allison approved fluid, use the Sales + Service Locatorto find an Allison Authorized Distributor in your area. These cookies are used to determine which parts of our Website interest our visitors. Thanks to all and thank you BernieD for the 4 quart limit information, that almost had to be the answer, based on what I was seeing. Input and retainers can be changed for different BM numbers or serial numbers as necessary. For some reason the dipstick always has transmission fluid about 6" above any mark, even though it is being checked when the fluid is cold. HOWEVER, when I read the Owner's manual and other tech information on the internet, they all say that only about 10.5 quarts will drain during a filter change and that the rest of it is trapped in the valve body and torque converter. Our Website may also enable third-party tracking mechanisms to collect data over time and across unaffiliated websites for use in interest-based marketing. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. Now I will attempt to finish the job. All of our parts are cleaned and inspected before shipping to ensure that they are in good condition. Replaced the filters, replaced 10 qts of fluid and it appeared that there was fluid on the dipstick so I decided to take her out for a test drive. Health and Safety recommendations for this product can be found on the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) @, Your privacy is important to us and we want you to understand our practices with respect to the gathering and handling of your personal data. Mechanics Corner - Engines, Transmission & More Airstream Trailer & Motorhome Owners Community, Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1. Thanks for the input so far! Mobil Delvac 1 ATF is a fully synthetic fluid recommended by Allison Transmission, Inc. and approved against the Allison TES-295 and TES-468 Specifications. I don't know too much, but I read the torque on the filter bolts was 37-43 FT lbs? Now I have 37,000. Often, restricted air flow through the CAC and radiator causes your symptoms and a simple cleaning can restore your cooling system to its original capacity. 2023 "99" Truck Parts & Industrial Equipment Ltd. Thanks everyone for all the replies. In fact I appreciate all advice. I tried it in the parking lot before I left, but adding the 2 qt of "cold" oil to the transmission cooled the fluid below the point where the auto level check will work, so I decided to drive back home which involves about a 3 mile uphill grade, knowing that would heat it up to the proper temp. . For some reason I thought that I would loose enough fluid when I changed the filters that it would be practically the same as a complete refill! If you are unsure, call Allison with your transmission serial # and they can tell you. Now if only I could figure out why I drain 5.5 gallons of oil from my ISL engine, but have to put almost 7 gals back in to read "full". I guesss it wouldn't be so bad if I had known what I know now. Allison MD3060 fluid level iRV2.com Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts. The Allison MD3060's torque converter is locked up in "high" second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth gear, so the transmission is not a big heat factor, even on steep grades. My next plan is to take a highway run and then check for any leaks, and use the electronic indicator to tell me if it is OK. Why would the dipstick always register so high on the dipstick when it is cold? You should get 17 and 19 quarts inside the transmission depending on the fluid pan used for your particular model. First, it's a pretty simple procedure and their are a bunch of posts and YouTube videos on the topic. I read something about an Internal filter that I will have to ask the service manager about when I buy the parts. I have enough fluid to make another whole fluid change-over. A 3060 in a typical tractor application was rated (and well warrantied) to 80k gcw with the 285/800 limits which is almost 4 times what a 47RE etc. The tranny is awfully large though you guys are right about that. Regular fluid and filter maintenance is the simplest thing you can do to ensure the performance and durability of your Allison fully automatic transmission. You are not interested in total transmission capacity. Do you have Allison Transmission parts or service related questions? This time I will only unscrew the drain plug and let it drain for a couple of days and then refill. Gary. Canada. Not sure when last service was done on engine, so I'm changing out all the fluids and filters. http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-powertrain/41978-nv5600-fso6406a-6-speed-fuller.html, http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=903103, http://howards-conversions-allison.com/products.php?id=all. As I've had the dealer change the fluid when I bought the truck in 2015, it's the first time for me changing the tranny fluid/filter. You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program here. If so, call them (1-800-FTL-HELP) with your VIN number and they can tell you what the capacity of your transmission is and how much fluid you should add on a filter change. Serial#: 6510078702, Part#: 29514781, Other#: 96 E 02. Anyone have those websites or info? lubegard complete full synthetic atf automatic transmission fluid 3 quarts (69032) lubegard. I agree to the Terms and Privacy*. Well, the excitement is not over yet. Transmission Model. The parts are then organized and given a bin location so they are ready to be shipped as soon as possible. What do the rest of you do? Go with synthetic trans fluid. 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TRANNY Instant SHUDDER FIXX 2oz. Not something you want to have happen!!!!! I thought that I would lose a lot more than that. The first is to check your owner's manual to see what the manufacturer says. Attn: Consumer Lubricants, Looking for the status of a rebate?Visit mobil.rebateresearch.com or call 1-866-895-9127. allison md-3060 md-3560 transmission parts & rebuild kits. I received a reply to a personal message I sent to Allisonman and he responded that the two filter cavities are isolated from the main sump and if you only replace the filters without draining the sump, the 10.5 quart value is close to being correct. The drain plug I removed was not on the torque converter and was located in the transmission cast aluminum pan. If anyone else can think of anything else, I appreciate it. We have a 1997 Discovery motorhome with 5.9 Cummins and an Allison MD3060 six speed transmission on a Freightliner chassis. Qk4D~F\~CL+8eqqU1SjUkE ITcLoB]$ W,%V~~:HK?AU. Call to Purchase: 1-800-663-6460 Monday-Friday 8am-5pm PST, 12905 King George Blvd. What's The Best Cordless Vacuum For RVers? Use our locator tool to find out where to buy Mobil Delvac products in your area. I think the HPCR Cummins has the CANbus mentioned above, but not 100%. REPLACEMENT PARTS ARE IDENTICAL TO ORIGINAL PARTS ALLISON GENUINE PACKAGING CAN ONLY BE PURCHASED FROM ALLISON DISTRIBUTORS AND DEALERS See more product details Frequently bought together + + Is that on a Freightliner chassis? deduction of the original shipping cost. Help on switching browsers can be found online. When it is at operating temperature I always use the UP and DOWN arrows. Anyone else have high fluid on their dipstick? Thanks Gary. I measured the amount that I drained out (1/2 gal.) Thanks Ned and Gary, those are good ideas. If you would like to discuss it further, you can contact me directly. Contact us: As was said, these transmissions are HUGE! endstream endobj 182 0 obj <>stream Looking to Purchase this Part? Then, you'll be good for 300,000 miles before another transmission fluid change is needed unless it gets contaminated. http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/faq/index.jsp?CategoryID=6. Here is a video on some issues I had with my Allison MD3060 WTECII control module. Most parts are then painted to ensure that they stay in the best shape possible until we ship them out. The fluid is designed to meet the demanding requirements of modern heavy-duty automatic transmissions. This product has the following approvals: VOITH TURBO DIWA Service Bulletin 013 -Extended Drain, VOITH TURBO DIWA Service Bulletin 118 - Extended Drain, Brookfield Viscosity @ -40 C, mPa.s, ASTM D2983, Kinematic Viscosity @ 100 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445, Kinematic Viscosity @ 40 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445, Health and Safety recommendations for this product can be found on the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) @ http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/psims/psims.aspx. PTO version is 32.49" long and weighs 575lbs. bench buddy 4-piece brush set for valve bore polishing & more: bb100 by superior . . All rights reserved. Re: Allison MD3060P Specs Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 11:52:13 AM Non PTO 3000 series is 28.29" long and weighs 535lbs. Allison 3000 Transmission Fluid Capacity The capacity has not changed in the last few sentences. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. I need to tackle that project as well!!! Any help will be appreciated. Work Order. Maybe the drain plug you removed was on the torque converter? The torque converter being programed to hold lock for use with an exhaust brake is a very nice feature on these transmissions. In September of 1991, Allison Transmission Division launched the World Transmission product line with the release of the MD3060 automatic transmission into production. Necessary cookies help make a website usable by enabling basic functions like page navigation and access to secure areas of the website. So I called the local Chevy dealer who said 7.4 qts. Nowhere in my 2005 Chevrolet 3500 owners manual does it give me (that I could find) the capacity for the Alison transmission coupled with the 6.6 turbo diesel. The clean part is then inspected for any defects that would make it unfit for sale. I've decided this is one of life's mysteries that I will never come to know, so as long as the engine is happy I buy the 7 gals of 15W40 and a new filter every year and pour myself an adult libation to celebrate when I'm done. After, if you have access to a facility that can handle that much oil and can lift vehicle, have at it. Allison recommends that customers using TES 468 Approved Fluid consider Allisons newest fluid spec, TES 668, for their next service. forum.dieselrvclub.org/index.php?topic=7495.0, Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 15_5 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/15.5 Mobile/15E148 Safari/604.1. Theis generation ushered in the computer-based diagnostic era, which meant you could use a variety of diagnostic tools to connect to the Allison Transmissions to read codes, clear codes, perform diagnostic commands, and more. The fluid level was checked and was 3. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC. Best Way To Siphon Gas From My 2019 E450 Class C? Thanks Gary. Refunds will be applied once the inspection is complete and approved. This discussion is proudly sponsored by: Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2 Thread Tools Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free! The synthetic base oil composition enables excellent performance even in some of the harshest operating conditions. Then you won't have to do it again for 100,000 miles. We also share information about your use of our site with our social media, advertising and analytics partners who may combine it with other information that youve provided to them or that theyve collected from your use of their services. Allison Transmission (A 629 540 43 00) On-board diagnostics, 15. I think I would replace what I took out and be done with it. Thanks to all. Once the item is received it will be inspected to ensure it is in the same condition and quality as when it was sent out. 12905 King George Blvd In order of favorables: #1, MD3060 #2 . it does shift slow and when it shifts you KNOW it shifts. 181 0 obj <>stream By signing up for ExxonMobil Lubricants marketing communications using this form, you agree to accept the frequency of communications as deemed appropriate by our campaign manager. The PTO is rated at 485ft/lbs using one PTO and just over 600lb/ft for both. %PDF-1.7 % I have the deep sump so it will take the 4 inch filters. I figured that it would be "easy" for me to be 1-2 quarts low, so I emptied the remainder (2 qts) of a partial gallon into the transmission which now makes 12 quarts total, expecting the sensor now to indicate 2 quarts low. Thanks for the tip on leaving one of the bolts in so I don't get a bath. 180 ILL NO. I spend countless hours stuck in hotel rooms with my job and over research these things to kill time. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Also in some other old posts there was talk of having custom ECMs for allison 2400's and they were talking about 4 different companies that made parts for allison swaps. How is a tranny that huge and from a MH only rated at 275hp?? The trans is currently behind a 5.9 cummins in a ford, but I am trying to figure out info on swapping to the dt466 I seem to remember a forum where there were some guys making internationals into 4x4's, anyone else know that forum? Introducing the next generation of synthetic on-highway automatic transmission fluid, Allison Transmission TES 668. Do not use this link to ask for help with RV-related issues; Ask those questions in one of our forums. While you're busy planning next trip, we'll focus on finding you the offers and content that you care about. Has anyone used the Tuson Sway Control (TSC-1000) Electronic Sway Control for Electric Trailer Brakes. DESCRIPTION YEARS QTY PART NO Allison 3000 Series, MD3060, MD3656 HARD PARTS 801A Piston, Lock-up Apply (MD3060) 1 MD3060.PIS01 NI Cover/Diaphragm With Seal . Versus conventional ATF fluids, the inherently high viscosity index and stability of Mobil Delvac 1 ATF protects against thermal breakdown at high operating temperatures, while still providing outstanding performance at sub-zero temperatures. I caught all the old fluid and it looked like a lot, so i measured it to see how much and it was damned close to 19 quarts, the listed "capacity" of this transmission. I get two different capacities 26 qts. Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I am working on swapping a standard transmission in an international 4900 series over to an allison md3060. Come join the discussion about trail reports, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, fabrication, drivetrain, and more! But if so, why does the dipstick continue to show full after driving many, many miles? This is a very common. Shifts quick, decent close gear ratios, converter locks up in 2-5 or 2-6, and single or double overdrive(5 or 6 spd). Thanks for understanding. It's pretty much "fill for life". Surrey, BC V3T 2T1 Allison Transmission TES 295 Approved Fluids are approved for use in Allison 1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series, 4000 Series and H 40/50 EP on-highway products. The synthetic base oil composition enables excellent performance even in some of the harshest operating conditions. The tranny is awfully large though you guys are right about that. Qty 1. Fill Capacity:qt (L) * 2100/2200/2500 Series (standard sump) 15 (14) 2100/2200/2500 Series (shallow sump) 13 (12) If a fluid change is necessary, then you should switch to TranSynd (or one of the other TES-295 approved fluids) and change the filters to the new Allison "High Capacity" filters. You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program, http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/psims/psims.aspx, Privacy center (Do not sell or share my personal information), Other equipment requiring Allison TES-295 and TES-468 or MB-Approval 236.91 performance levels. Allison Approved Fluids that are synthetic based offer improved viscosity that other fluids can't offer. In January of 1996, Allison introduced the MD3066 transmission, the next response to market trends in automatic transmissions for use in trucks. TES 668 builds upon the proven 20-year record of TES 295 synthetic fluid by delivering the same great performance with a modern additive package. I have a MD3000MH transmission in my Horizon and drained it via drain plug and removed the filters to replace them. Most of the Allison literature indicates the onboard system is far more accurate than the dipstick, but the dipstick would give an "estimate" of fluid content. ~Gyn|YDpQ K>1\T3 ;Q' adn2@&7]OFTz0W Pmg5d;TZgb3HHk[FM5yZHElt>Qm9t\w_X!L All website features may not be available based upon your cookie consent elections. Allison MD3060 Fluid/Filter Change - Airstream Forums Airstream Forums > > Airstream Motorhome Forums > Mechanics Corner - Engines, Transmission & More. Surrey, BC V3T 2T1 VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The BestCounty Park CampgroundsFor RVe Where Can I Have Packages Delivered While On The R Plan Your RV Route & Find Campgrounds Like a P Don't Miss Carolina Pines RV Resort In South Carol Know How To Prevent A Space Heater Fire In Your RV. add to cart. Is the dipstick wrong and the engine simply throws it out or burns it? [$EM 6{Rr!vP g L5:eF@0#$tN@ n @U~)xL^1NrZcy"&AoEe_ Keeps transmissions clean to extend life and performance even under some of the harshest driving conditions. There a few things to be aware of so I thought I'd share. If you have difficulty registering an account, logging in or need other account-related assistance, send us a message and well get back to you shortly. Gary I do have a transmission dipstick and hadn't thought about using that. I had a transmission fluid . Thanks Gary. These tables are a little confusing to me! we have the MD3070PT in a couple trucks at work. 982797. Allison Transmission TES 389 Approved Fluids are approved for use in traditional on-highway products. I caught all the old fluid and it looked like a lot, so i measured it to see how much and it was damned close to 19 quarts, the listed "capacity" of this transmission. Really have a lot of hold back all the way down low. The Allison Owner's manual is not really clear on this point. Industrial lubricants by equipment builder. The Allison that's the top dog (for a DT466)would be the MD3060. 22777 Springwoods Village Parkway, Spring, TX 77389 CITGO SynDurance 668 Automatic Transmission Fluid, SK HD 668 Fully Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid, Valvoline Syn Gard 668 Automatic Transmission Fluid, Rugged 668 HD Synthetic Transmission Fluid, HD SYN DRIVE Full Synthetic Transmission Fluid, PurTrax Heavy Duty Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid, Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF / Mobil Delvac 1 ATF, Transtar Allison TES Certified Full Synthetic ATF, John Deere - HD Synthetic Transmission Fluid, Castrol ATF Heavy Duty / Transmax ATF Heavy Duty, Vehicle Electrification + Environmental Test Center. Return Address: First time go to an Allison shop, be a pest and observe. For a better experience please use a browser other than your current version of Internet Explorer. Canada. Cookies are small text files that can be used by websites to make a users experience more efficient. JavaScript is disabled. Huntsville, AL I have a MD3000MH transmission in my Horizon and drained it via drain plug and removed the filters to replace them. Allison recommends that customers using TES 389 Approved Fluid consider Allisons newest fluid spec, TES 668, for their next service. Fleece performance has some Ally controllers as does Howard's but good luck getting him to answer the phone. awsome trans in a med duty. The time that the refund appears on your card is dependent on your card issuers policy. high Capacity Filters for allison 3000/4000 Product Families transmissions were released into allison production July 2006, beginning with the following transmission serial numbers: 6510670912 (3000 series) 6610205144 (4000 series) high Capacity Filters allow extended filter change intervals when used with an allison approved tes 295 automatic Allison TES 668 Approved Fluids are recommended for use in Allison 1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series, 4000 Series and H 40/50 EP on-highway products. Thought you would be interested in this article/resource and could find it useful. They also suggest fluid type, capacity, and filter #s. My Allison. Also fairly inexpensive for a rebuild or to find used. JavaScript is disabled. Posts: 19,927. If you are the site owner (or you manage this site), please whitelist your IP or if you think this block is an error please open a support ticket and make sure to include the block details (displayed in the box below), so we can assist you in troubleshooting the issue. . Allison TES 668 Approved Fluids are recommended for use in Allison 1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series, 4000 Series and H 40/50 EP on-highway products. The law states that we can store cookies on your device if they are strictly necessary for the operation of this site. ?pQgu&a>Txdp @'zK(/c35Or(0no9fL*WKczQbwRPP`*!,ls|r8RRFg,k,;KweF~n*LfxOH i4q[LrAz}EUtgHN0)1 N2y>u _ I had a transmission fluid change-over at 7000 miles. Allison Automatic Filter & Fluid Change Don Smith 27.3K subscribers Subscribe 431 Share 75K views 6 years ago Allison 4000 series automatic transmission filter and fluid change procedure.. If you use the truck strictly for work, this is a great trans to use. We take your privacy rights seriously and we are dedicated to the protection of your personal data. Key features and benefits include. On Shelf . 99 Truck Parts and when I tried to pour it back in with a funnel and a clear plastic hose, it fills the tube fast and runs out the top! MD3060P is my model. Helps improve overall and extends transmission efficiency, smooth shifting performance and fuel economy. I have had Transynd put in several years ago. is rated (and warrantied) for. Outstanding film-strength and anti-wear properties. I only lost 1/2 gallon in the process? Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) All I can figure is that the PO filled it to capacity, not knowing any different. You are using an out of date browser. Allison recommends TES 668 Approved Fluids to extend drain intervals and enhance transmission performance and durability in all operating environments. The unit wouldnt allow me to start the RV which is a 1994 Holiday Rambler Endeavor. Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2, Does anyone know what fluid is recommended for this transmission and if we change the type of fluid do you need to change the filters as well, Don't Miss Paradise Oaks RV Resort In Florida, The Best Mail Services For Full-Time RVers, The 10 Best Spring Break Destinations For RVers, What You Should Know About RV Towing Insurance, 4 Embarrassing Things We Did As New RVers, Allison 3000 temp lower in 5th gear vs 6th, Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1.